Comments on: Expert: Ethnic Cleansing, Not Surge, Securing Iraq http://www.warisboring.com/?p=1367&utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=expert-ethnic-cleansing-not-surge-securing-iraq We go to war so you don't have to. Wed, 08 Sep 2010 10:34:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: dam http://www.warisboring.com/?p=1367&cpage=1#comment-619972 dam Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:22:57 +0000 http://warisboring.com/?p=1367#comment-619972 Lumberjack, I'm afraid you don't understand how to interpret the data. The study shows variation in lights in different sectors of the city <i>relative to one another</i> over time. It may be true that there are fewer lights on at 11pm, but this would be true across the city as a whole. So it does not change the fact that certain sectors of the city are almost entirely absent light (and hence populations), relative to others sectors. See p. 2289 of the article: "The decrease in nightime light signature was not uniformly distributed across the city." Lumberjack, I’m afraid you don’t understand how to interpret the data. The study shows variation in lights in different sectors of the city relative to one another over time. It may be true that there are fewer lights on at 11pm, but this would be true across the city as a whole. So it does not change the fact that certain sectors of the city are almost entirely absent light (and hence populations), relative to others sectors. See p. 2289 of the article: “The decrease in nightime light signature was not uniformly distributed across the city.”

]]> By: Lumberjack http://www.warisboring.com/?p=1367&cpage=1#comment-613439 Lumberjack Sat, 20 Sep 2008 19:45:04 +0000 http://warisboring.com/?p=1367#comment-613439 Just one problem, his December 16 2007 data, which was supposed to show less prosperity (as reflected by the lights) was taken at 11:00 PM. All the other data sets were taken at 9:00 PM. http://www.envplan.com/abstract.cgi?id=a41200 Fewer lights at 11PM than at 9PM ? Well, duh. Just one problem, his December 16 2007 data, which was supposed to show less prosperity (as reflected by the lights) was taken at 11:00 PM. All the other data sets were taken at 9:00 PM.

http://www.envplan.com/abstract.cgi?id=a41200

Fewer lights at 11PM than at 9PM ? Well, duh.

]]> By: Joshua Foust http://www.warisboring.com/?p=1367&cpage=1#comment-613166 Joshua Foust Sat, 20 Sep 2008 14:34:30 +0000 http://warisboring.com/?p=1367#comment-613166 That study was crap, however: it confused correlation with causation, and offered no explanation for reasons lights in any given area would be turned off beyond ethnic cleansing. That study was crap, however: it confused correlation with causation, and offered no explanation for reasons lights in any given area would be turned off beyond ethnic cleansing.

]]> By: Stéphane Taillat http://www.warisboring.com/?p=1367&cpage=1#comment-612847 Stéphane Taillat Sat, 20 Sep 2008 09:55:22 +0000 http://warisboring.com/?p=1367#comment-612847 David, Most probably, one must account of the recent progress in security trends using all these factors... But, I think one has to consider the following: political and military decisions by US at the tactical, operational and national levels were the key factors.. More importantly, these decisions operated as complementary factors, with a large part of these consciously linked and another factors with inattended effects. In historical terms, one has to speak of a virtuous circle instead of a previously vicious circle.. No doubt ethnic cleansing played an important role... but it can't alone served as an explanation for larger phenomenon like the political reintegration of Sunnis. Cordialement Stéphane David,

Most probably, one must account of the recent progress in security trends using all these factors… But, I think one has to consider the following: political and military decisions by US at the tactical, operational and national levels were the key factors.. More importantly, these decisions operated as complementary factors, with a large part of these consciously linked and another factors with inattended effects.
In historical terms, one has to speak of a virtuous circle instead of a previously vicious circle..
No doubt ethnic cleansing played an important role… but it can’t alone served as an explanation for larger phenomenon like the political reintegration of Sunnis.
Cordialement
Stéphane

]]> By: Patton http://www.warisboring.com/?p=1367&cpage=1#comment-612143 Patton Fri, 19 Sep 2008 22:48:21 +0000 http://warisboring.com/?p=1367#comment-612143 I'm not an expert, but I would think it would be probable that it wasn't just the Awakening, or the surge, or the change in tactics. I’m not an expert, but I would think it would be probable that it wasn’t just the Awakening, or the surge, or the change in tactics.

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