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	<title>Comments on: Terrorists, Racial Diversity Threaten U.S. Aircraft Carriers? (Updated)</title>
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		<title>By: John Patch</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Patch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 01:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John Patch here. I am disturbed folks would think I implied we should avoid diversity. I was simply suggesting that terrorists could conduct a false flag infiltration in Navy uniforms and could do so without worrying about standing out. Solutions might include ID badges for crew with proximity chips for access to more sensitive areas. We could not conduct a similar asymmetric false flag infiltraiton on a PLAN warship. JPP]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Patch here. I am disturbed folks would think I implied we should avoid diversity. I was simply suggesting that terrorists could conduct a false flag infiltration in Navy uniforms and could do so without worrying about standing out. Solutions might include ID badges for crew with proximity chips for access to more sensitive areas. We could not conduct a similar asymmetric false flag infiltraiton on a PLAN warship. JPP</p>
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		<title>By: John Cheese</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Cheese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 20:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[During the Cold War the U.S. effectively nullified the threat of East Bloc naval infiltration by relying on African-American sailors on all but one randomly selected carrier. However, in one incident three Cubans managed to infiltrate a ship in 1979.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>During the Cold War the U.S. effectively nullified the threat of East Bloc naval infiltration by relying on African-American sailors on all but one randomly selected carrier. However, in one incident three Cubans managed to infiltrate a ship in 1979.</p>
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		<title>By: sid</title>
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		<dc:creator>sid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 14:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Glad you brought up the Germans in WWII....

But you neglect to bring up the experience of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/1/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;German Americans in WWI&lt;/a&gt;.

Nor do you bring up what happened to the Japanese Americans in WWII.

In both those cases though, it was a fuller assimilation into the larger society that salved the wounds.

The Diversity Business ...and that what it is... is predicated upon keeping divisiveness alive instead.

Thats how they make their money.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad you brought up the Germans in WWII&#8230;.</p>
<p>But you neglect to bring up the experience of the <a href="http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/1/" rel="nofollow">German Americans in WWI</a>.</p>
<p>Nor do you bring up what happened to the Japanese Americans in WWII.</p>
<p>In both those cases though, it was a fuller assimilation into the larger society that salved the wounds.</p>
<p>The Diversity Business &#8230;and that what it is&#8230; is predicated upon keeping divisiveness alive instead.</p>
<p>Thats how they make their money.</p>
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		<title>By: ajay</title>
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		<dc:creator>ajay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 10:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Q: how many US warships (or British warships, for that matter) were lost in WW2 because they had been infiltrated by ethnically similar German saboteurs? I&#039;m guessing &quot;none&quot;. 

(&quot;Nimitz? Ain&#039;t that a German name?&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Q: how many US warships (or British warships, for that matter) were lost in WW2 because they had been infiltrated by ethnically similar German saboteurs? I&#8217;m guessing &#8220;none&#8221;. </p>
<p>(&#8220;Nimitz? Ain&#8217;t that a German name?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: CDR Salamander</title>
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		<dc:creator>CDR Salamander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 03:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[David,
Naughty naughty.  I cover Diversity a lot in the Navy - but it has nothing to do with the argument Patch may or may not be making.  

To boil it down - I love the fact that the Navy I love has everyone from every DNA group and mix of them - reminds me of my hometown.  What I object to is an official policy of sectarianism and discrimination based on race, creed, color and national origin that is being pushed by the Diversity Industry.  That is my argument.  I love diversity - and live it every day - however - I detest the fetid cancer of Diversity as sold by the Diversity Industry.  Huge difference.

Oh and Matt, read my stuff again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,<br />
Naughty naughty.  I cover Diversity a lot in the Navy &#8211; but it has nothing to do with the argument Patch may or may not be making.  </p>
<p>To boil it down &#8211; I love the fact that the Navy I love has everyone from every DNA group and mix of them &#8211; reminds me of my hometown.  What I object to is an official policy of sectarianism and discrimination based on race, creed, color and national origin that is being pushed by the Diversity Industry.  That is my argument.  I love diversity &#8211; and live it every day &#8211; however &#8211; I detest the fetid cancer of Diversity as sold by the Diversity Industry.  Huge difference.</p>
<p>Oh and Matt, read my stuff again.</p>
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		<title>By: AW1 Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>AW1 Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 19:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Moose,

   As pointed out above, you are missing the point. I don&#039;t care if we have an all-Black Navy, or a half-Hispanic Navy, or whatever. Skin color should have zero influence on whether or not you are recruited.  Diversity, as practiced by the US Navy Diversity Command, is racism brought to it&#039;s logical conclusion. It&#039;s blatantly illegal, and detrimental to the Navy&#039;s warfighting mission.

   There is only one color in the US Navy: Haze Grey. There is only one race: Human. 

    We need to recruit the BEST and BRIGHTEST from amongst our citizens. If someone can pass the mental, emotional and physical requirements for enlistment, then that should be all we require. Race, religion, ethnicity, gender, or any of the other artificial designators should have no bearing whatsoever upon your enlistment. 

   Respects,]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moose,</p>
<p>   As pointed out above, you are missing the point. I don&#8217;t care if we have an all-Black Navy, or a half-Hispanic Navy, or whatever. Skin color should have zero influence on whether or not you are recruited.  Diversity, as practiced by the US Navy Diversity Command, is racism brought to it&#8217;s logical conclusion. It&#8217;s blatantly illegal, and detrimental to the Navy&#8217;s warfighting mission.</p>
<p>   There is only one color in the US Navy: Haze Grey. There is only one race: Human. </p>
<p>    We need to recruit the BEST and BRIGHTEST from amongst our citizens. If someone can pass the mental, emotional and physical requirements for enlistment, then that should be all we require. Race, religion, ethnicity, gender, or any of the other artificial designators should have no bearing whatsoever upon your enlistment. </p>
<p>   Respects,</p>
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		<title>By: sid</title>
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		<dc:creator>sid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;You’re saying that it’s impossible to maintain fleet diversity to a set standard because it will REQUIRE the recruitment and retention of under-qualified personnel.&quot;

Moose...As I am in reality half black...but my birth certificate pegged me as Caucasian...would/should I merit special consideration in hiring and promotion simply because of the melanin content of my skin?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You’re saying that it’s impossible to maintain fleet diversity to a set standard because it will REQUIRE the recruitment and retention of under-qualified personnel.&#8221;</p>
<p>Moose&#8230;As I am in reality half black&#8230;but my birth certificate pegged me as Caucasian&#8230;would/should I merit special consideration in hiring and promotion simply because of the melanin content of my skin?</p>
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		<title>By: sid</title>
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		<dc:creator>sid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Guys, listen to yourselves for a second. You’re saying that it’s impossible to maintain fleet diversity to a set standard because it will REQUIRE the recruitment and retention of under-qualified personnel.&quot;

No moose. You are twisting the argument with the implicit ASSumption that the vast prponderance of &quot;minorities&quot; are un/under qualified to serve.

Bravo Sierra.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Guys, listen to yourselves for a second. You’re saying that it’s impossible to maintain fleet diversity to a set standard because it will REQUIRE the recruitment and retention of under-qualified personnel.&#8221;</p>
<p>No moose. You are twisting the argument with the implicit ASSumption that the vast prponderance of &#8220;minorities&#8221; are un/under qualified to serve.</p>
<p>Bravo Sierra.</p>
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		<title>By: Moose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Guys, listen to yourselves for a second. You&#039;re saying that it&#039;s impossible to maintain fleet diversity to a set standard because it will REQUIRE the recruitment and retention of under-qualified personnel. So, despite the fact that the diversity goals of the Navy are are far below the actual diversity of the US population, you&#039;re saying it&#039;s impossible to find enough minorities to competently fill those billets. I suppose the Navy never recruited under-qualified, and retained underachievers, before there were diversity goals.

Great article as always, Axe.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys, listen to yourselves for a second. You&#8217;re saying that it&#8217;s impossible to maintain fleet diversity to a set standard because it will REQUIRE the recruitment and retention of under-qualified personnel. So, despite the fact that the diversity goals of the Navy are are far below the actual diversity of the US population, you&#8217;re saying it&#8217;s impossible to find enough minorities to competently fill those billets. I suppose the Navy never recruited under-qualified, and retained underachievers, before there were diversity goals.</p>
<p>Great article as always, Axe.</p>
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		<title>By: sid</title>
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		<dc:creator>sid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That spotlights the evil of &quot;Diversity&quot; as currently practiced...

Its not about achieving a sense of assimilation (like the South LA Latino and the Nordic &quot;Aryan&quot; managed in Generation Kill); its about a continual celebration of cultural and genetic differences.

Apart from funneling money and power into the hands of a few folks whose day job is to perpetuate the myth perpetual vicitmhood, the only other big result I&#039;ve seen has been several score wounded and killed by a commissioned officer on a military base in the heart of the country.

I, for one, would have no desire to spend quality time on a lifeboat with a bunch of folks centered on their differences....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That spotlights the evil of &#8220;Diversity&#8221; as currently practiced&#8230;</p>
<p>Its not about achieving a sense of assimilation (like the South LA Latino and the Nordic &#8220;Aryan&#8221; managed in Generation Kill); its about a continual celebration of cultural and genetic differences.</p>
<p>Apart from funneling money and power into the hands of a few folks whose day job is to perpetuate the myth perpetual vicitmhood, the only other big result I&#8217;ve seen has been several score wounded and killed by a commissioned officer on a military base in the heart of the country.</p>
<p>I, for one, would have no desire to spend quality time on a lifeboat with a bunch of folks centered on their differences&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: FireSupport</title>
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		<dc:creator>FireSupport</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 17:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dr. Walter Jones&#039;s point is a falsehood.  Diversity as a natural process for selecting and retaining the highest quality personnel leads to innovative thinking, etc.  Diversity (discrimination based on skin color or ethnicity) for its own sake has the opposite effect.  Taking and retaining less-qualified personnel to maintain a racial quota is an unfair, unwise, and patently illegal, by the way.

The issue with Major Hasan is WHY he was not culled out based on his conduct and fitness.  And Salamander and many others point to what is the increasingly obvious reason.  

http://blog.usni.org/wp-admin/post.php?action=edit&amp;post=4926

However, I did shake my head at Patch&#039;s point re: on-board terror threats.  What if we had to fight the Chinese?  We leave all the oriental sailors pierside?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Walter Jones&#8217;s point is a falsehood.  Diversity as a natural process for selecting and retaining the highest quality personnel leads to innovative thinking, etc.  Diversity (discrimination based on skin color or ethnicity) for its own sake has the opposite effect.  Taking and retaining less-qualified personnel to maintain a racial quota is an unfair, unwise, and patently illegal, by the way.</p>
<p>The issue with Major Hasan is WHY he was not culled out based on his conduct and fitness.  And Salamander and many others point to what is the increasingly obvious reason.  </p>
<p><a href="http://blog.usni.org/wp-admin/post.php?action=edit&#038;post=4926" rel="nofollow">http://blog.usni.org/wp-admin/post.php?action=edit&#038;post=4926</a></p>
<p>However, I did shake my head at Patch&#8217;s point re: on-board terror threats.  What if we had to fight the Chinese?  We leave all the oriental sailors pierside?</p>
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		<title>By: AW1 Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>AW1 Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 17:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[CDR Salamander&#039;s comments have been taken completely out of context in this article, and obviously to support a bone-headed theory that forced diversity is good.

Diversity, as currently practiced by the bullies from Millington, is a detriment to the Navy, and to America;s national defense. It forces the fleet to accept individuals BECAUSE of their ethnicity or gender, rather than recruit the BEST and BRIGHTEST without regard to ethnicity, gender, or any other factor. 

Politicians, for some time now, have been using the Navy as a petri dish for their social experiments, and it has had an overall negative effect on training and mission readiness. because of the demands for compliance, and the resulting paperwork, seminars and added workload, mission-based training has been reduced, and our fleet left less prepared to accomplish it&#039;s primary tasks.

Understand this: No one that I served with, or that I know still in the Navy gives a rat&#039;s patoot about what color someone&#039;s skin is, or what kind of accent they have. They care, as I did, about one thing only, and that is the dedication and competency of their shipmates and themselves.

When diversity is FORCED upon an organization through quotas and relaxing of standards, (and that is EXACTLY how it is being accomplished, both in the fleet and at Annapolis) then it undercuts morale because folks begin to wonder if Ensign &quot;X&quot; got his commission through competence or skin color. Same with Seaman &quot;W&quot;. Did she get in because they Navy needed more females or because she was the best and brightest available?

The subject of diversity is a fine thing to discuss, but the discussion must also make it clear that there is a world of difference between a military force and a civilian workplace. In the former, you risk not only your own life, but those of others, and those of civilians if you really mess it up. 

 When I look at the Navy, I don&#039;t want to see a rainbow. I want to see haze gray hulls bristling with weapons and a well-trained and better-led crew willing and able to use it anytime, anyplace, anywhere.

respects,]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CDR Salamander&#8217;s comments have been taken completely out of context in this article, and obviously to support a bone-headed theory that forced diversity is good.</p>
<p>Diversity, as currently practiced by the bullies from Millington, is a detriment to the Navy, and to America;s national defense. It forces the fleet to accept individuals BECAUSE of their ethnicity or gender, rather than recruit the BEST and BRIGHTEST without regard to ethnicity, gender, or any other factor. </p>
<p>Politicians, for some time now, have been using the Navy as a petri dish for their social experiments, and it has had an overall negative effect on training and mission readiness. because of the demands for compliance, and the resulting paperwork, seminars and added workload, mission-based training has been reduced, and our fleet left less prepared to accomplish it&#8217;s primary tasks.</p>
<p>Understand this: No one that I served with, or that I know still in the Navy gives a rat&#8217;s patoot about what color someone&#8217;s skin is, or what kind of accent they have. They care, as I did, about one thing only, and that is the dedication and competency of their shipmates and themselves.</p>
<p>When diversity is FORCED upon an organization through quotas and relaxing of standards, (and that is EXACTLY how it is being accomplished, both in the fleet and at Annapolis) then it undercuts morale because folks begin to wonder if Ensign &#8220;X&#8221; got his commission through competence or skin color. Same with Seaman &#8220;W&#8221;. Did she get in because they Navy needed more females or because she was the best and brightest available?</p>
<p>The subject of diversity is a fine thing to discuss, but the discussion must also make it clear that there is a world of difference between a military force and a civilian workplace. In the former, you risk not only your own life, but those of others, and those of civilians if you really mess it up. </p>
<p> When I look at the Navy, I don&#8217;t want to see a rainbow. I want to see haze gray hulls bristling with weapons and a well-trained and better-led crew willing and able to use it anytime, anyplace, anywhere.</p>
<p>respects,</p>
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