Hungarians “Shoot Down” Typhoon

21.09.07

Categorie: Air |

Dogfightfake_d7 Back in July I relayed reports of the first-ever “shoot-down” of an F-22 Raptor fighter, during a mock dogfight with a U.S. Air Force F-16. Our European friends — Brits, Italians, Germans and Spaniards — might have had a couple chuckles at the news, for their new fighter, the Typhoon, had never suffered a similar humiliation. (Or if it had, no one had reported it.)

No longer. It has come to light that during an exercise in Italy in May, a Hungarian Gripen light fighter — a small, single-engined design generally considered only slightly better than an F-16 — “shot down” an Italian Typhoon, according to a press release from the manufacturer, quoting a Hungarian pilot:

“Other aircraft couldn’t see us -– not on radar, not visually -– and we had no jammers of our own with us. We got one Fox 2 kill on a F-16 who turned in between our two jets but never saw the second guy and it was a perfect shot.”“Our weapons and tactics were limited by Red Force rules, and in an exercise like this the Red Force is always supposed to die, but even without our AMRAAMs and data links we got eight or 10 kills, including a Typhoon. Often we had no AWACS or radar support of any kind, just our regular onboard sensors –- but flying like that, ‘free hunting’, we got three kills in one afternoon. It was a pretty good experience for our first time out.”

Should F-22 jocks worry? Maybe, according to the BBC, which claims that the “RAF’s Eurofighters have flown highly successful missions against the F-22 during recent exercises in the U.S.”

The lesson here? Sometimes a basic fighter, expertly flown, will win even against your latest high-tech jets, no matter how many tens of billions of dollars you sink into whiz-bangs.

(Thanks, DID!)

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7 Responses to “Hungarians “Shoot Down” Typhoon”

  1. Potten says:

    Wow if they shot down a Typhoon with most of their weapon systems shut down then imagine what a small grippen can do with them turned on!

    I always wondered why they say Eurofighter is better. It’s only bigger!

  2. Pete says:

    But then again the Typhoon was “piloted” (more or less) by an Italian. I rest my case ;-)

  3. James says:

    The Hungarian information is lacking in any clarity. A really stupid boast that holds little water other than a pilot got a clean kill.

    Wow is all I can say *insert rolleyes smiley*!

  4. Ethan says:

    i have herd another story that the typhoon shot down the f22 lol but they are both amazing planes

  5. Tommy says:

    Its quite obvious that the British/Swedish Gripen is incredible underrated! I cant understand why?

  6. Tommy says:

    But I guess its all about “promotion”! Are you a small manufacture like Saab, you have a hard time to stand up to a Billion dollar manufacture like the German/Italian/British Eurofighter. Its great though that the British Aerospace now a days is a part of the Gripen (Griffin)project! I cant wait for the new updated version of Gripen!

  7. dave says:

    Swedesh technology has alawas been underated. Grippen is a very capable jet but will always find it hard to compete in sales with the likes of the USA, UK, Germany etc due to political pressure/politics.
    But bear in mind the pilot is a HUGE factor in combat.
    It would be interesting to see if a Grippen could shoot down a UK Typhoon :)

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