MRAPs = “Symbolic Targets” (Bumped and Expanded)

27.08.07

Categorie: Reporters, Vehicles |

rg-31s-in-iraq-with-troops.JPGThe Marine Corps general in charge of buying “Mine-Resistant Ambush-Protected” trucks for the U.S. military had some harsh words for the media who gathered to observe MRAP testing at Aberdeen Proving Ground in Maryland this morning. “All troops in theater are happy to see these vehicles,” said Brigadier General Mike Brogan in response to several questions about the armored trucks’ effectiveness. When reporters pressed for specific examples of incidents where MRAPs proved resistant to roadside bombs, Brogan grew impatient. He said that he would not discuss operational details, and pointed out that all the press attention on this potentially $20-billion program was providing intel to insurgents and even encouraging propaganda-motivated attacks on MRAPs. “Because of what you’re doing, these are becoming symbolic targets.”

Update: Photographer Alex Lorman weighs in with a couple pics from the event!

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18 Responses to “MRAPs = “Symbolic Targets” (Bumped and Expanded)”

  1. Joshua says:

    I have to agree with the General on his statement to the press. The press needs to be more careful in what information is made public for their safety of the people that guarantee their right to free speech.

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  3. Patrick says:

    Really? The press should judge whether a story will release dangerous information before writing it? I thought that was the job of the people who are in the position to tell: those who decided whether or not information is classified. And, surely, we don’t care more about people in these mine-resistant trucks than we do about the people in the non-mine-resistant ones, so what does it matter if they are targeted? In fact, we should prefer they target these over the others, right, since they’re mine-resistant and all.

  4. Mark Utz says:

    This is dangerous information!
    .
    The insurgents would have never been able to figure out that the US is trying to armor up its vehicle fleet,if it wasn’t for those reporters/traitors.
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    Moving vehicles of US forces all over Iraq will now become a symbolic target thanks to the press.

  5. Peter says:

    The Press clamors when the vehicles are not protected . The press clamors when vehicles are protected. The common denominator is the press clamoring.

  6. doc75 says:

    Peter, right on. Add politicians to the mix. Then they’ll be shocked (and clamoring) when the vehicles get targeted and show up on insurgent videos.

  7. GEr says:

    Gereral, General, what is the weakest point, where a direct hit would kill everyone riding in this?

    NYT reporter?

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  9. someone says:

    So you really think the best intelligience they can come up with is watching CNN? Please… I agree with the idiom “loose lips sink ships”, but I’m afraid you don’t understand the 21st century nor the information available in cyberspace if you think the press is undermining the security of our troops. They will target anything that looks american… and I have to agree with Patrick… wouldn’t we want them targeting these trucks as opposed to the unarmored humvees? Do they really think if we don’t have any mention of them in the press, the enemy combatants won’t notice them?

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  11. frank barnett says:

    you learn more by doing than reading.

    the bad guys put ieds out and watch what happens- if they see that new trucks (mraps) just keep on going, they will just keep putting more explosives into their roadside bombs until the desired effect occurs.

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  16. Mars says:

    The Army does NOT guarantee anyones rights! Rights come from the constitution and the law. In the constitutional list of rights, the 10 amendments, the Bill of Rights, you will find that your rights are guaranteed…against the government, not BY the government. As the enforcement arm of government the Army is the biggest threat to yrou rights, and not the guarantor of them. If Bush decides to violate your right to assemble, and he decides to do that in a big way, who is he gonna call? That’s right, the National Guard, a component of..the Army. I wish people would stop parroting mindless catch-phrases. Sheesh.

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